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		<title>By: Vikasa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vikasa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 14:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, 
 
I was equally disturbed by Obama&#039;s comment about &#039;nonviolence not feasible against the Nazi&#039;s&#039;.  Kind of contradicts his other quote from King. 
 
To me, it is like saying a black man could never get elected president back in the &#039;60&#039;s.  How do you know until you get some decent non-white candidates?  How do you know nonvlolence would not have worked against hitler, when it wasn&#039;t even attempted?  War hasn&#039;t exactly been a great keeper of long-term peace.  Maybe it is time to try a different method (i.e. fighting evil with goodness). </description>
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<p>I was equally disturbed by Obama&#39;s comment about &#39;nonviolence not feasible against the Nazi&#39;s&#39;.  Kind of contradicts his other quote from King. </p>
<p>To me, it is like saying a black man could never get elected president back in the &#39;60&#39;s.  How do you know until you get some decent non-white candidates?  How do you know nonvlolence would not have worked against hitler, when it wasn&#39;t even attempted?  War hasn&#39;t exactly been a great keeper of long-term peace.  Maybe it is time to try a different method (i.e. fighting evil with goodness).</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://www.nonviolenceunited.org/2009/12/what-about-hitler/comment-page-1/#comment-358</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 02:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh, when I posted this I didn&#039;t know Barack Obama would perpetuate the myth again -- &quot;What about Hitler&quot;?  Mr. Obama went out of his way at his acceptance of the Nobel Peace Prize to tell everyone that violence is necessary, that we need to kill, that violence is somehow noble... and he claimed erroneously, &quot;a Nonviolent movement could not have halted Hitler&#039;s armies.&quot;  Wrong!  Read up (see above), study Nonviolence, understand it, lead the world.  
  
More of the quote, &quot;I make this statement mindful of what Martin Luther King Jr. said in this same ceremony years ago:  “Violence never brings permanent peace.  It solves no social problem:  it merely creates new and more complicated ones.”   
 
Obama went on, &quot;As someone who stands here as a direct consequence of Dr. King’s life work, I am living testimony to the moral force of non-violence.  I know there’s nothing weak — nothing passive — nothing naïve — in the creed and lives of Gandhi and King.  
  
But as a head of state sworn to protect and defend my nation, I cannot be guided by their examples alone.  I face the world as it is, and cannot stand idle in the face of threats to the American people.  For make no mistake:  Evil does exist in the world.  A non-violent movement could not have halted Hitler’s armies.  Negotiations cannot convince al Qaeda’s leaders to lay down their arms.  To say that force may sometimes be necessary is not a call to cynicism — it is a recognition of history; the imperfections of man and the limits of reason.&quot;  
 
C&#039;mon Mr. Obama.  You have the strength to move beyond the myth of violence and your ignorance of Nonviolence.  You have the obligation. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh, when I posted this I didn&#8217;t know Barack Obama would perpetuate the myth again &#8212; &#8220;What about Hitler&#8221;?  Mr. Obama went out of his way at his acceptance of the Nobel Peace Prize to tell everyone that violence is necessary, that we need to kill, that violence is somehow noble&#8230; and he claimed erroneously, &#8220;a Nonviolent movement could not have halted Hitler&#8217;s armies.&#8221;  Wrong!  Read up (see above), study Nonviolence, understand it, lead the world.  </p>
<p>More of the quote, &#8220;I make this statement mindful of what Martin Luther King Jr. said in this same ceremony years ago:  “Violence never brings permanent peace.  It solves no social problem:  it merely creates new and more complicated ones.”   </p>
<p>Obama went on, &#8220;As someone who stands here as a direct consequence of Dr. King’s life work, I am living testimony to the moral force of non-violence.  I know there’s nothing weak — nothing passive — nothing naïve — in the creed and lives of Gandhi and King.  </p>
<p>But as a head of state sworn to protect and defend my nation, I cannot be guided by their examples alone.  I face the world as it is, and cannot stand idle in the face of threats to the American people.  For make no mistake:  Evil does exist in the world.  A non-violent movement could not have halted Hitler’s armies.  Negotiations cannot convince al Qaeda’s leaders to lay down their arms.  To say that force may sometimes be necessary is not a call to cynicism — it is a recognition of history; the imperfections of man and the limits of reason.&#8221;  </p>
<p>C&#8217;mon Mr. Obama.  You have the strength to move beyond the myth of violence and your ignorance of Nonviolence.  You have the obligation.</p>
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